1102 Journeyman

[S. Nimrod]

Someone recently referred to the position of GS-13/1102 as a "journeyman".  Is there really an actual designation as "journeyman" for Contracting professionals?  If it's true, where can I read about this for myself? 

[joel hoffman]

There are plenty of references to what a journey level position is on the web. Why not ask the person who referred  to the term what they meant?

P.S., don’t use the definition for a journeyman athlete…🤠

[policyguy]

For Government suggest you start your research with US Office of Personnel Management:

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/classification-qualifications/general-schedule-qualification-standards/1100/contracting-series-1102/

Another source is National Contract Management Association - Career Path in Contract Management:

Career Path in Contract Management (ncmahq.org)

Hope this helps.

[S. Nimrod]

2 hours ago, joel hoffman said:

There are plenty of references to what a journey level position is on the web. Why not ask the person who referred  to the term what they meant?

P.S., don’t use the definition for a journeyman athlete…🤠

Why would I use the definition for a journeyman athlete? The question was specific to 1102. Is this response meant to be condescending?  

[S. Nimrod]

1 hour ago, policyguy said:

For Government suggest you start your research with US Office of Personnel Management:

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/classification-qualifications/general-schedule-qualification-standards/1100/contracting-series-1102/

Another source is National Contract Management Association - Career Path in Contract Management:

Career Path in Contract Management (ncmahq.org)

Hope this helps.

 

Just now, S. Nimrod said:

Why would I use the definition for a journeyman athlete? The question was specific to 1102. Is this response meant to be condescending?  

policyguy - thank you for the response

[joel hoffman]

14 hours ago, S. Nimrod said:

Why would I use the definition for a journeyman athlete? The question was specific to 1102. Is this response meant to be condescending?  

Nope. It was simply a joke. I was surprised when that was the first definition that popped up. No offense intended. From experience over 52 or so years, the term generally refers to someone who is experienced and qualified for their job in their trade. And it is above an apprentice level but below a senior level in an organization.

[joel hoffman]

9 hours ago, S. Nimrod said:

Is there really an actual designation as "journeyman" for Contracting professionals?  If it's true, where can I read about this for myself? 

I didn’t see any reference to or description of “journeyman” in policyguy’s reference. Perhaps I overlooked it.

Honestly, why don’t you ask your source person what they mean and where it’s described? 

[Todd Davis]

Other than trade professions, I've only expereinced the term while enlisted in the Air Force and typically refers to those at the E-4/E-5 level, which is well below a GS-13 level.  https://usafofficer.com/air-force-enlisted-rank-structure/

I did locate a couple articles that refer to a journeyman level position being a GS-13.  Both relate to law enforcement positions, so maybe the term is used in that profession and someone applied that term to contracting?  

https://www.govexec.com/management/2019/02/us-marshals-complain-system-unfairly-denies-them-promotion/154811/

https://www.osi.af.mil/OSI-Careers/Civilians/FAQs/

 

[Contracting_in_Wonderland]

Like many other things, I'm pretty sure it's an unofficial term in the 1102 world. I've used it myself for GS-12/13 positions. Just a designation to indicate that at that level you should know what you're doing but perhaps are not yet the expert. Some offices code them as "senior contract specialists." And certainly there are plenty of GS-12+ that do not meet the common definition, but that's another can of worms.