JohnB4774 Posted April 28, 2023 Report Share Posted April 28, 2023 Thanks for everyone's help in advance. We are struggling to find a happy medium with one of our sub's on a new project. My company won the project and is the prime. Lets call my company, company X. We will call the subcontractor, company Y. Company X just obtained a new contract that has specific GSA rates. We have agreed to partner with company Y who has its own separate GSA schedule. Many of the service categories rates in business Y are higher then the allowable rates in the prime contract. How can we make this work and still keep the subcontractor on as a partner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
here_2_help Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 What is the prime contract type, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel hoffman Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) I’m afraid that you are going to need to clarify your post. Your company won a “new project”. Is it an order under your GSA schedule contract? If yes, see also this site for further clarifications: https://www.gsa.gov/buy-through-us/purchasing-programs/gsa-multiple-award-schedule/schedule-features/contractor-team-arrangements What kind of “agreement” do you have with the other Company? If they are a sub, what do their GSA schedule rates have to do with their pricing? And if an order under your GSA schedule, did the ordering activity state that they have to approve subs before performing? Edited May 1, 2023 by joel hoffman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerfed Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 You have two choices. You can enter into a team arrangement if the GSA CO is willing to revise the order. But I doubt the CO will do that since the award has already been made. The other choice is have company Y reduce their rates to fit within your company X contract rates. Your subcontracting has to be transparent and consistent with your GSA service contract labor categories and prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB4774 Posted May 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 Thanks for all the replies. The contract that we received from the government is a Time and Material contract. In order to keep everyone happy, we are thinking of developing a firm fixed price contract with our subcontractor and they will give us monthly hours reports. We will take the hours from their monthly report and bill the government accordingly on our contract. As long as the labor requirements map out correctly, is this something that we can do? Can we have a firm fixed price contract with a subcontractor while also being the prime on a time and materials contract? This sub was already preapproved before we won the contract, but the contract is set aside for EDWOSB so it was exclusively awarded to our company. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retreadfed Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, JohnB4774 said: The contract that we received from the government is a Time and Material contract. Which clause FAR 52.212-4 Alt I or 52.232-7 applies to your contract? Also, is the "contract" an order under a GSA schedule contract? Edited May 1, 2023 by Retreadfed clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerfed Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 3 hours ago, JohnB4774 said: Thanks for all the replies. The contract that we received from the government is a Time and Material contract. In order to keep everyone happy, we are thinking of developing a firm fixed price contract with our subcontractor and they will give us monthly hours reports. We will take the hours from their monthly report and bill the government accordingly on our contract. As long as the labor requirements map out correctly, is this something that we can do? Can we have a firm fixed price contract with a subcontractor while also being the prime on a time and materials contract? Right. I think you are in good shape as long as labor requirements map out and you bill the government consistent with your corresponding rates. Just be sure you bill for work (time expended) accurately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB4774 Posted May 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Retreadfed said: Which clause FAR 52.212-4 Alt I or 52.232-7 applies to your contract? Also, is the "contract" an order under a GSA schedule contract? the contract is an order under our GSA schedule contract. FAR 52.212-4 Alt I applies to our contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnB4774 Posted May 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 28 minutes ago, formerfed said: Right. I think you are in good shape as long as labor requirements map out and you bill the government consistent with your corresponding rates. Just be sure you bill for work (time expended) accurately. thanks for the clarity and reassurance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retreadfed Posted May 1, 2023 Report Share Posted May 1, 2023 4 hours ago, JohnB4774 said: This sub was already preapproved before we won the contract, I'm not sure what this means, but were you asked to price out the proposal for the order using FAR 52.216-31? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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