Brent The Builder Posted March 23, 2023 Report Share Posted March 23, 2023 Everyone has probably heard of the performance of work requirements on Federal projects. Since I’m a GC, my JV needs to complete 15% of the work. As the SDVOSB partner in the JV, I need to complete 40% of that 15%. We have found some nice projects in the $10-20M range, but we have not been bidding because my partner is concerned we can’t meet the requirements for my company. This is new to us, so I’m hoping some of you have some experience on how you’ve met the 40% requirement. I’m a small company, so I’m thinking to include the cost for the project manager, rentals like dumpsters and portable toilets. I’ve heard the profit can be included in the 40%. Is the process to add up each company’s costs throughout the job, figure out the percentage of total costs for each company, then split the profit based on that percentage? That seems to be how I understand it.. If profit is included, can anyone share what they’re using or seeing on the markups for overhead and the profit line items? When I worked for a couple federal contractors in the past, I’m pretty sure we were using 10% overhead and 8-10% profit on lump sum contracts. This was before Covid though. My partner thinks profit is not that high. Can anyone provide some feedback on what you’re seeing now? It may be helpful to include the state if you share a rate since costs vary so much by area. This profit number could play a part in helping us meet our requirements. Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
here_2_help Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 $20M project 15% = $3M 40% of $3M = $1.2M If you are concerned that you cannot meet the required amount, don't bid. Don't hope you can make it--know you can. Have a solid plan in place. Or don't bid. I have no insight into your other questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Culham Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 12:27 PM, Brent The Builder said: Everyone has probably heard Your questions reach into complex matters that I suggest you pose to your local PTAC (see link below). The multiple questions relate to not only SBA regulations but what entities do and I believe a PTAC will be able to provide assistance in answering all or give you references to do so. PTAC assistance is free to small businesses. To demonstrate the complexity take a read of 13 CFR 121.104 at (h) https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-13/chapter-I/part-121/subpart-A/subject-group-ECFRd133f03f6d8398b Locate the PTAC near you - https://www.aptac-us.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent The Builder Posted April 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 12:13 PM, here_2_help said: $20M project 15% = $3M 40% of $3M = $1.2M Your math omits an important component in the calculations. Before determining the percentages, the material costs are deducted from the contract value. $20M project ~40% Materials = $8M 15% of Remaining $12M = $1.8M 40% of $1.8M = $720k I was hoping some people on here who have done a JV could share how they got their work requirements accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel hoffman Posted April 9, 2023 Report Share Posted April 9, 2023 On 4/8/2023 at 8:42 AM, Brent The Builder said: Your math omits an important component in the calculations. Before determining the percentages, the material costs are deducted from the contract value. $20M project ~40% Materials = $8M 15% of Remaining $12M = $1.8M 40% of $1.8M = $720k I was hoping some people on here who have done a JV could share how they got their work requirements accomplished. How about General Conditions/Supervision and self performing some specific construction work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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