June 8Jun 8 comment_98920 I noticed a phenomenon in recent years, whereby it seems an increasing number of 1102s describe CLINs that can be exercised to extend the term of the contract as "mandatory" or "optional." For example:OPTION PERIOD ONE1001: Administrative support services (Mandatory) 1002: Logistical support services (Mandatory)1003: Additional support services (Optional) These contracts will typically contain clauses 52.217-8 and -9, but no other option clauses and little explanation as to how CLIN 1003 would work in practice if exercised. CLIN 1003 will have the same POP as CLINs 1001 and 1002.What I think these folks are trying to do is distinguish between the option to extend the term of the contract and the option to increase the level of effort (or "surge"). They believe that an "option period" floats above the CLINs at the contract level, and that if the agency exercises this "period," it will fund all "mandatory" CLINs. I've tried explaining to colleagues that option "periods" are actually optional CLINs, and that options are optional, period. I also tried in vain to convince a senior CO that a definitized contract can have multiple different POPs running concurrently. Responses generally range from incredulity to grudging acceptance.I feel like I've been screaming into the abyss here.Are others seeing this in solicitations? Is it common for 1102s to believe that an "option period" somehow exists separate from the contract CLINs, to be exercised in a single decision across all eligible CLINs, as opposed to CLIN-by-CLIN? Report
June 8Jun 8 comment_98921 @FrankJon I’ve done acquisition consulting work for a long time and been in quite a few contracting offices across the government. The only interpretation I’ve ever seen in practice is yours. Report
June 8Jun 8 comment_98922 @FrankJon Have you read the attached? They might be of help.BP The Government's Exercise of Options.pdf BP - Contract Line Items .pdf Report
June 8Jun 8 Author comment_98923 1 hour ago, formerfed said:@FrankJon I’ve done acquisition consulting work for a long time and been in quite a few contracting offices across the government. The only interpretation I’ve ever seen in practice is yours.Thanks for the sanity check! Report
June 8Jun 8 Author comment_98924 1 hour ago, Moderator said:@FrankJon Have you read the attached? They might be of help.BP The Government's Exercise of Options.pdf BP - Contract Line Items .pdfThank you! I haven't seen these but will check them out. Report
June 9Jun 9 comment_98927 Different experience over here.My agency in HHS has some contracts with line items that have differing periods of performance. Different from each other, sometimes overlapping, and different from the contract's period of performance. This is additional complexity that is seldom warranted, but it's a well understood concept.Some of the larger IDIQs (GWACs/MAS/etc.) allow for very complicated CLIN structure - GSA Alliant 2 and EIS come to mind. EIS has >1500 CLINs of every sort imaginable an EIS 'order' (they don't call it that) can have hundreds of optional CLINs. CS's who have used these for more complex requirements are familiar with having many sorts of optional line items and get that option exercises are CLIN by CLIN. Report
June 9Jun 9 comment_98928 57 minutes ago, General.Zhukov said:Some of the larger IDIQs (GWACs/MAS/etc.) allow for very complicated CLIN structure - GSA Alliant 2 and EIS come to mind. EIS has >1500 CLINs of every sort imaginable an EIS 'order' (they don't call it that) can have hundreds of optional CLINs. CS's who have used these for more complex requirements are familiar with having many sorts of optional line items and get that option exercises are CLIN by CLIN.Bringing in those contracts such as GSA Alliant 2 and EIS unnecessarily complicates this discussion. Both contracts are the IDIQ type and contain an initial 5 year base period of performance. Alliant has a series of potential five one-year periods to place orders while EIS has two additional five year option periods.Edit: I just realized you may be talking about placing orders under those contracts instead. I can’t think of a way to overly complicate orders but perhaps it’s due to factors such as your agency procedures, lack of contract specialists understanding of order placement, or not grouping CLINS into logical groups consistent with events like fiscal renewal or requirements fluctuations. Report
June 10Jun 10 Author comment_98933 18 hours ago, General.Zhukov said:Different experience over here.My agency in HHS has some contracts with line items that have differing periods of performance. Different from each other, sometimes overlapping, and different from the contract's period of performance. This is additional complexity that is seldom warranted, but it's a well understood concept.Some of the larger IDIQs (GWACs/MAS/etc.) allow for very complicated CLIN structure - GSA Alliant 2 and EIS come to mind. EIS has >1500 CLINs of every sort imaginable an EIS 'order' (they don't call it that) can have hundreds of optional CLINs. CS's who have used these for more complex requirements are familiar with having many sorts of optional line items and get that option exercises are CLIN by CLIN.Is the idea that the options allow the order to serve as something akin to a "second-tier IDIQ"? Do many go unexercised? Report
June 10Jun 10 comment_98934 14 hours ago, formerfed said:S unnecessarily complicates this discussion.What I meant to state is that federal contracting differs a lot, and my experience is different from the other responses to this thread. The OP's view wouldn't be controversial with my colleagues. I think the COs around me would immediately agree that option 'periods' are actually optional CLINs, that different CLINs can have different PoPs,. I have never seen a grouping of optional line items with mandatory and optional qualifiers. This may be impossible to do with our department's CWS . I doubt such a structure would pass review for the same reasons stated by OP - 'This 'mandatory option' stuff doesn't make sense. All optional line items are optional. Disapprove."I suspect the difference between me and other folks on this thread is that I am in a civilian agency that operates quite differently than .mil. sam.gov is only involved in maybe 5-20% of our awards. A commercial items determination isn't a process, because it is almost always self-evident. FAR 15 contracts are exceedingly rare - outnumbered by orders (8.4 & 16.5) by 20:1. We make great use of the big IDIQs/GWACs/MAS (Alliant, EIS) - where lots of different sorts of optional line items is normal. Report
June 10Jun 10 comment_98935 deleted. Will re-write later. Edited June 10Jun 10 by General.Zhukov Don't like my answer. Report
June 11Jun 11 Author comment_98937 19 hours ago, General.Zhukov said:FAR 15 contracts are exceedingly rare - outnumbered by orders (8.4 & 16.5) by 20:1. We make great use of the big IDIQs/GWACs/MAS (Alliant, EIS) - where lots of different sorts of optional line items is normal.You’re implying that there’s some relationship between acquisition procedures and how options can be used. I don’t think such a relationship exists. I think I can use options the same way under part 15 as I can when placing orders, and vice versa. The proper use of options, regardless of procedures, is described in FAR part 17. Can you articulate — beyond a general sense that ordering procedures give the government greater discretion — why you think this? Report
June 11Jun 11 comment_98938 7 hours ago, FrankJon said:You’re implying that there’s some relationship between acquisition procedures and how options can be used. I don’t think such a relationship exists.Upon consideration, I take the comment back. I think you're right. There are large differences between contracting entities in how they operate, but I think I now agree when it comes to use of options, it's not the acquisition procedures. That said, its routine for contract to have both additional quantity and additional time options, and line items with different overlapping PoPs. Junior CS's get early experience with this typing in the line items of the aforementioned orders. Why wouldn't this be true elsewhere? I don't know.Anecdotally, an 1102 I went to grad school told a story, maybe apocryphal (he was a talker), about how his office once broke their CWS because it had only four digits for line-item numbers. For whatever Air Force program he was working in, they had to add the fifth digit, for line item 10,000. Report
June 12Jun 12 comment_98941 I have found this thread to be very confusing.On 6/8/2026 at 6:58 AM, FrankJon said:OPTION PERIOD ONE1001: Administrative support services (Mandatory)1002: Logistical support services (Mandatory)1003: Additional support services (Optional)I don't understand the parenthetical CLIN annotations — (Mandatory) and (Optional).Maybe CLIN 1003 is an option to buy an additional service during "option period one" other than administrative support services and logistical support services.So the Government has the right to (1) exercise the option to extend administrative and (2) logistical service, with which the contractor must comply, and (3) the opportunity to seek an additional kind of service during Option Period One , which the contractor may refuse.Maybe other readers understood that and I've just been slow on the pickup. Report
June 12Jun 12 comment_98942 6 hours ago, Vern Edwards said:Maybe CLIN 1003 is an option to buy an additional service during "option period one" other than administrative support services and logistical support services.So the Government has the right to (1) exercise the option to extend administrative and (2) logistical service, with which the contractor must comply, and (3) the opportunity to seek an additional kind of service during Option Period One , which the contractor may refuse.Maybe other readers understood that and I've just been slow on the pickup.That’s my understanding but I assumed CLIN 1003 is an option within option period one which the government has a unilateral decision to exercise at some point. Report
June 13Jun 13 comment_98943 13 hours ago, formerfed said:That’s my understanding but I assumed CLIN 1003 is an option within option period one which the government has a unilateral decision to exercise at some point.Could be. Who knows? Report
June 16Jun 16 comment_98945 On 6/12/2026 at 11:04 AM, Vern Edwards said:I don't understand the parenthetical CLIN annotations — (Mandatory) and (Optional).My best guess is that 'mandatory' probably intends is that the two CLINs need to be exercised together. The standard practice would be adding to the line-item descriptions a plain language statement like CLIN 1001 and 1002 constitute a single requirement and must be exercised jointly and concurrently. CLIN 1001 & 1002 can only be exercised during Option Period One dd-mmm-yyyy to dd-mmm-yyyy. But yeah, who knows? Who hasn't read a contract and thought 'what is this gobbledygok'? Report
June 19Jun 19 Author comment_98962 On 6/13/2026 at 7:44 AM, Vern Edwards said:Could be. Who knows?That’s not surprising, Vern. I would hope any Wifcon contributor struggles with this as the concept of mandatory and optional options is inherently nonsensical. It requires you to think of an option period as something that exists under the contract but outside of the CLINs. According to this view, the CLINs are subordinate to the option periods; they do not themselves represent the option periods.“Mandatory” CLINs would be exercised all together or not at all. The procuring CO either doesn’t consider the possibility that the agency might want to omit certain services in the future or doesn’t realize that exercising each CLIN is an independent decision. “Optional” CLINs, on the other hand, are something like ordering or “surge” CLINs that the PCO believes must be renewed within each option period.That’s my understanding anyway. I’ve seen this nomenclature around options at two agencies now, leading me to think it might be common. Report
Wednesday at 01:27 PM3 days comment_99432 On 6/8/2026 at 8:58 AM, FrankJon said:These contracts will typically contain clauses 52.217-8 and -9, but no other option clauses and little explanation as to how CLIN 1003 would work in practice if exercised. CLIN 1003 will have the same POP as CLINs 1001 and 1002.Yeah, that's completely wrong and I see it all the time, nearly in everything submitted to me. I constantly find myself explaining that an option is a unilateral right and directing them to the definition under part 2. Constantly specialists tell me they plan to "exercise" the optional CLINs by getting the contractor's signature. Disturbing indeed. I typically include a clause similar to 52.217-7, only for services. The prescription for -7 applies to the contemplation of increased "supplies," not services.While your observations about optional CLINs and defining CLINs in some table as either mandatory or optional is spot-on, consider the case of labor hour contacts (also egregiously overused) in which funds are constantly and inevitably left unused and not invoiced after the PoP expires. This also creates a disparity between the total obligated amount and the contract value in the system after we deobligate those funds. Report
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