March 3Mar 3 comment_98238 When I started in contracting in 1974, GS-1102s were classified as administrative personnel, not professional. As I recall, NCMA and others carried on a years-long campaign of to get 1102 personnel to classified as professionals. I, along with many of my 1102 co-workers, did not think it was all that important. But many 1102s were very passionate about it.On February 2, 1982, while I was assigned to the headquarters of the Air Force Systems Command, the Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs, Subcommittee on Federal Expenditures, Research, and Rules, 97th Congress, Second Session, conducted a hearing about "the Federal procurement work force."Here is a quote from the opening statement by Senator John C. Danforth, the subcommittee chair:Today's hearing concerns the Federal procurement work force. The 100,000 men and women who do the Government's buying spent 130 billion tax dollars during fiscal year 1981. They will spend that much and more this year.The present procurement system requires the implementation of a veritable library of regulations and procedures that define the buyer-seller relationship. Obviously, the people using this system must be qualified, trained, and capable of exercising good judgment.Concern over the quality of the procurement work force is not new. Its importance was highlighted in the report of the Commission on Government Procurement, released almost 10 years ago. It is a central theme of the draft proposal for a uniform Federal procurement system, which was issued by the Office of Federal Procurement Policy last October.A trained, self-confident, and professional work force will be required to implement the simplified Federal procurement system. A single Government-wide regulatory framework will rid the system of thousands of pages of redundant regulations. There is great concern, however, that the procurement work force may not be up to its new job. A system that relies less on regulations and more on plain good judgment requires a trained work force.Efforts to improve the professionalism of the procurement work force are already underway. This morning's witnesses will describe the training and certification programs being undertaken by Government and by universities, professional associations, and others in the private sector. This partnership is being encouraged through the efforts of the Federal Acquisition Institute. Clearly, such cooperative efforts should be continued and expanded.Increased professionalism within the work force demands recognition that procurement people are professionals. Sometimes such recognition is absent. The Office of Personnel Management's proposed classification standards for procurement personnel, the GS1102 series standards-downgrading certain procurement positions-are a case in point. While not the focus of these hearings, they remain of concern to this subcommittee and to many commentators both inside and outside Government. Senator Chiles and I have joined Government contractors in opposing OPM's plan, and we have been joined, in turn, by Senator Roth and Senator Cohen. We will be watching the progress of these standards closely.Finally, we must remember that the Government's procurement work force has a significant impact on the Government's relations with its contractors. Unnecessary controversy, all too often born of ineptitude, misunderstanding, or unnecessary rigidity can be avoided-to the mutual benefit of the contractor and the taxpayer. In short, the investment we make in training contract officers in making them smart buyers and tough, but fair, customers-can pay the Government back several times over.I haTestimony, written statements, and letters were submitted by the OFPP Administrator, a government contracting firm, the Aerospace Industries Association, other industry representatives, a prominent law firm, and NCMA,.I have attached the hearing record (74 pages).OPM finally classified 1102s as professionals as of January 1, 2000.Two questions for discussion:What is the distinction between professional and other work?What personal characteristics distinguish professionals from other workers?Free speech is welcome, but PLEASE answer both questions before making other remarks.Senate Hearing-Federal Procurement Workforce.pdf Report
March 3Mar 3 comment_98245 Mastering of certain skills obtained through education, training and experience. For many professions, a license distinguishesObjectivity, integrity, desire for continual learning and self improvement, delivering highest quality level of service, and practices accountability. Report
March 3Mar 3 Author comment_98247 2 hours ago, Don Mansfield said:Are you asking if it's professional in theory or in practice?I'm asking the following two questions:3 hours ago, Vern Edwards said:Two questions for discussion:What is the distinction between professional and other work?What personal characteristics distinguish professionals from other workers?The ultimate answer to the title question depends on the answers to those. Report
March 4Mar 4 comment_98257 A profession has professional standards and responsibilities such as specialized training on a complex topic (not necessarily education), ethical standards and codes of conduct including accountability, and continuous learning requirements (formal or informal). Of course entities like OPM and NCMA have their own definitions, but in my mind, the more rigorous standards you require, the more it starts to look like a profession.The interest and ability to adhere to the above. Professionals hold themselves and others accountable to the standards, they demonstrate critical thinking and sound judgement in regulated/complex/vague/ambiguous situations, they share their knowledge to improve and advance the profession. Most importantly, professionals study (broad and deep). Report
Wednesday at 03:05 PM5 days comment_98262 7 hours ago, Vern Edwards said:What is the distinction between professional and other work?Professional work requires advanced specialized knowledge of a subject with that knowledge acquired through education above the level of high school with education/experience continuing in the particular field. Other work does not. Professional work is nonroutine work that is intellectual in character where other work is routine mental effort. Professional work applies the intellectual knowledge to grasp, analyze, and communicate complex and abstract ideas. Other work does not. Professional work requires high ethical standards and integrity and might be supported by a certification or license. Other work does not yet might be supported by some type of certification or license such as skilled labor.4 hours ago, Vern Edwards said:What personal characteristics distinguish professionals from other workers?Personal characteristics of a professional are reliability, organization, empathy and emotional stability. Accountability for actions, ability to change, positive attitude and a strong adherence to ethical work are also characteristics of professional workers. Other workers may demonstrate some of these characteristics but at lower levels. Report
Wednesday at 03:07 PM5 days Author comment_98263 @C Culham Ah... AI entries, or AI inspired. Well, if we're going to do that, here's another:A professional is characterized by high levels of competence, integrity, and accountability, consistently delivering quality work while maintaining ethical standards. Key traits include effective communication, emotional intelligence, reliability, and respect for others. They demonstrate adaptability, a strong work ethic, and a commitment to continuous learning and professional development.I like this one better. Report
Wednesday at 03:53 PM5 days comment_98265 16 minutes ago, Vern Edwards said:Ah... AI entries, or AI inspired. Well, if we're going to do that, here's another:No sir. My inspriation!Here are some but not all of the references I had encountered in the past when going back quite honestly to the history you posted about professionalization of a GS series to stuff I encounter through to today. Such as the what is the basis behind professional General Schedule classification standard. Various editorials by folks like Indeed. An orgainzation www.psychologicalscience.org And the US Department of Labor as demonstrated by this https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/17d-overtime-professional NCMA Standards and Practices. All references that in my casual but continued experience over fovever as a professional that I encountered that addressed a professional worker. I will say as I reached back I did encounter the typical AI responses but I did not stop there but went on to find what I thought I had encountered and read before. My inspiration that found the references. Report
Thursday at 03:36 PM4 days Author comment_98280 On 3/3/2026 at 7:29 AM, Vern Edwards said:Two questions for discussion:What is the distinction between professional and other work?What personal characteristics distinguish professionals from other workers?I asked those two questions because I believe that the RFO and other regulatory reforms will not accomplish much. I think the workforce is at the heart of its problems.I have attached an article published by two distinguished members of the faculty of The George Washington University Law School, Jessica Tillipman and Steven Schooner, "FEATURE COMMENT: Institutional Amnesia And The Neglect Of The Federal Acquisition Workforce." Attached. I suspect that most of you have not read it.Here is a tantalizing quote:The most capable acquisition professionals exercise discretion and work within the rules to deliver innovative and value-driven outcomes. By contrast, the least experienced tend to merely follow the rules, often defaulting to rigid compliance at the expense of critical thinking and mission effectiveness. The consequence is a widening gap between lofty policymaking goals and the day-today reality of federal acquisition, resulting in a system with increasingly complex rules yet lacking the personnel and expertise necessary to implement them. As Steven Kelman noted decades ago, it would “certainly not hurt … to accompany the grant of increased discretion with efforts to raise the quality of the federal workforce.Neglect of the workforce? Yes. Especially by the workforce itself.Now to my questions.Professional work requires devotion. There are no regular hours or days off. The difference between professionals and other workers is that professionals merge life and work. They are devoted.A job title does not make one a professional. One is a professional, or not, depending on how one lives and thinks. That does not mean that one must neglect family, forsake other interests and activities, and shun entertainment. (Watch "The Pitt"! Professionals at work!) It means that you are fascinated by what you do and are devoted to it.If you are a contracting officer in an agency or office devoted to the use of space technology to achieve mission objectives and you haven't read a book about space technology, then you are not, in my opinion, a professional space technology contracting officer. You might be good at processing procurement paperwork, but you are not a professional space technology contracting officer.If you are a contracting officer busily involved in source selections but you haven't read a book about decision analysis, you might be good at assembling files, but you are not a professional source selection contracting officer.How can you critique requiring activitys' statements of work if you have not taught yourself to write one and made yourself proficient at doing it?Don't count on DAU or FAI to provide you with professional training. Don't think you are a professional because you attend NCMA conferences. Don't think you are a professional because you call yourself one.You are a professional, or not, depending on how you live your work and prepare yourself to live it.I know that some will be angry with me for saying these things, like one member of the "I Hate Vern" club at reddit 1102.🤗But either blame yourself if 1102 work is not what you'd like it to be or work to make it better.FEATURE COMMENT_ Institutional Amnesia And The Neglect Of The Fed (1).pdf Report
Thursday at 06:51 PM4 days comment_98283 Absolutely excellent message, Vern. These questions you raised should be something every contracting person needs to ask themselves and honestly answer. Where those answers show shortcomings, they either should decide to take steps to self improve or consider another job. Report
Friday at 03:53 PM3 days comment_98287 This got me thinking about IQ versus Emotional Intelligence,@Vern Edwards, and reminded me that there is another way to learn: to achieve a state of flow. “Flow” is achieved when the mind is optimistic, focused, and unstressed while being pushed to just the apex of its abilities. That apex then goes a little higher the next day. Scaling this up to an office where flow is an everyday occurrence would equate to, and could even outdo (through higher grit), those offices with a high median IQ.If only our workflows and ops tempos could always be structured this way, you would get your wish of workforce improvement. At least you would in a dumbo like me. Report
Friday at 04:03 PM3 days Author comment_98288 Just now, WifWaf said:If only our workflows and ops tempos could always be structured this way, you would get your wish of workforce improvement.We're talking about government procurement.Sometimes, events impose workflows and ops tempos on us by outside events like, say, pandemics, natural disasters, and wars, in which case contracting officers must act in the real world, not some ideal world. Think of the people working now to procure resupply of the weapons being used by the Department of Defense (War) in our war with Iran.Emotional intelligence is the ability to deal with the real. You gotta come prepared to deal with the work that arrives at your desk, when it arrives and under the circumstances in which it arrives, and with the speed which it requires. That's part of professionalism.Workforce improvement would develop professionals capable of dealing with the real, as well as the ideal. Report
Friday at 04:51 PM3 days comment_98289 Alright, back to the real then: We’re never going to get ideal learning from outside demands - it must come from within. I therefore suggest those offices without ideal workflow and ops tempo simulate a state of flow via prescribed reading of relevant periodicals.What are the top professional industry periodicals for the following industries within which COs awarded the highest-dollar contracts and financial assistance during FY25 (according to usaspending.gov query)?PRODUCT/SERVICE CODE (PSC) Q201 - MEDICAL-MANAGED HEALTHCARE (NAICS 524117 - insurance carriers)PSC M1JZ - OPERATION OF MISCELLANEOUS BUILDINGSPSC M181 - OPER OF GOVT R&D GOCO FACILITIESPSC AZ11 - R&D… (NAICS 541710 - physical, engineering, and life sciences)PSC 1510 - AIRCRAFT, FIXED WINGPSC 1905 - COMBAT SHIPS AND LANDING VESSELS Report
Friday at 08:57 PM3 days Author comment_98291 @WifWaf I won't respond to your last post. Please don't continue that line of discussion. I don't understand what it has to do with the nature of professionalism and GS-1102 work.The issues are (1) the nature of professionalism and (2) whether GS-1102s work like professionals.Please stick to those issues. Refute my remarks if you like, or amend or add to them, or post your own thoughts about the two issues. Report
Friday at 10:43 PM3 days comment_98293 A profession is different from a non-professional occupation as the professional occupation has developed as set of formal qualifications based upon education; generally has some form of an apprenticeship; has an examination of an individual's skills and knowledge as they progress in their development, and has one or more regulatory bodies with powers to admit and discipline members. While non-professional occupations may have some of these characteristics, they generally do not have all of them.Generally, a person in a professional occupation has a high degree of developed skills with deep knowledge of the domain or specifics within the domain; abides by a moral code of ethics and/or conduct; and in general has autonomy in their decision making and the application of their trade/skills in the day to day course of operation.Applying these questions to the 1102, I often think of some of Vern's posts from many years ago how in many offices the 1102 has become a clerk, more focused on the process of contracting rather than the application of art of contracting. In today's federal government, it seems like there are many 1102s that would be better coded as 1105 procurement techs as they are experts in the process of preparing contract document and files, but often flounder when left to their own to think about the "why" they are doing what they are doing. I am also reminded of a gift that I received from an "old salt" contracting officer that I studied under when I got my first SAP warrant. He gave me a framed document that he attributed to Vern Edwards, someone that he spoke very highly of. That document is titled "The Attributes of a Successful Contracting Officer." Having worked in several different offices, I can see a clear distinction between those Contracting Officers that display the 12 attributes described in this document which to me are the professional 1102s vs the 1102s in the offices that are really better classified as 1105s but have been converted to 1102s as the 1105 series has been phased out. Report
Friday at 11:04 PM3 days comment_98294 I’ll add another indicator of 1102 professionalism is when the program office you support (client, customer, requisitioned, or whatever) views you as valuable and perhaps essential.I gave thought to the issue of how does an office increase the degree of professionalism. One is make that part of personnel recruitment. Don’t select a candidate unless you see a strong sense of potential. Another is use that as factors in employee performance appraisals and individual development plans (IDP). Recognize and reward examples of successful demonstration of professionalism and widely publicize it as model behavior. This sends the message that if you want to get head, model this behavior. Report
Saturday at 04:04 PM2 days comment_98304 The 1102 series is by definition a professional series. What I believe is not true is that someone that occupies an 1102 position possess the characteristics of a professional but I would offer that by personal experience many do.I am confused by the discussion in this thread as it is true that not all 1102 contract specialists (1102) are Contracting Officers (CO). Yet the words CO are being used interchangeably when discussing what professional work is. This is where the confusion is as I believe there are salient differences between the two titles beyond the fact of legal authority that is vested in a CO. In the medical field an intern, resident and attending physician are all professionals yet level of responsibility and autonomy are the difference are they not? So why can it not be the same with regard to 1102 to 1102 and then to CO? And if the same does not it change perspective of devotion as well yet this statement On 3/5/2026 at 7:36 AM, Vern Edwards said:You are a professional, or not, depending on how you live your work and prepare yourself to live it.still rings true? Report
Saturday at 04:31 PM2 days Author comment_98305 20 minutes ago, C Culham said:The 1102 series is by definition a professional series. That is meaningless in the context of my two questions. Just because you have a job that is considered professional for payment purposes does not mean that you are, in fact, professional in the way you work.21 minutes ago, C Culham said:I am confused by the discussion in this thread as it is true that not all 1102 contract specialists (1102) are Contracting Officers (CO). Yet the words CO are being used interchangeably when discussing what professional work is. I'm sorry that you are confused. It's regrettable. I focus on COs because they are the apex of 1102-dom.The statement I made that you quote is still my view. I think my meaning was clear in context. In any case, I don't intend to explain it further. You either get it or you don't.Do you have any further response to the two questions?What is the distinction between professional and other work?What personal characteristics distinguish professionals from other workers?You have already addressed them. Do you have anything more to say?Or do you want to challenge or otherwise comment on any of the assertions I made in my Thursday at 07:36 AM post, or anyone else's assertions? Report
Saturday at 07:28 PM2 days comment_98307 As a consultant, one thing I and the company I worked for did was conduct assessments of government procurement offices. We performed these at the requests of various government agencies. The requests generally came from very senior officials who were concerned about quality and responsiveness of the contracting functions and wanted negative issues identified.What we found across the government was a wide range of capabilities of 1102 personnel with some I would categorize as professional and too many as described in this quote from the Tillipman and Schooner article as the least experienced.The most capable acquisition professionals exercise discretion and work within the rules to deliver innovative and value-driven outcomes. By contrast, the least experienced tend to merely follow the rules, often defaulting to rigid compliance at the expense of critical thinking and mission effectiveness.I’ll share two examples of what I view as professional. Back with Bill Clinton was president, he promoted a “Welfare to Work” initiative. A contract specialist/contracting officer decided on her own to incorporate the initiative into the source selection process for an upcoming competition. She briefed agency management of her plans and proceeded. An offerors planned commitment to hiring welfare recipients into contract performance was evaluated in their proposals along with other aspects. What she did as a professional was recognize a government objective and crafted a unique selection plan to help achieve it. Once award was made and word got out she was quickly recognized for her accomplishment. She and I were invited to the White House for a meeting with Al Gore.Another example is a contract chief of the IT branch. Over time his positive contributions and successful support of various CIO actions by devising strategies tailed to needed CIO outcomes. He quickly became respected and valued by the CIO office staff and was a key participant in all planning. One day he informed me that the CIO asked him to attend his regular staff meetings. It was because the CIO respected his critical thinking, judgement, and insights on all matters and not just contracting.Unfortunately there are too many conditioned to merely process assigned actions by following laid out steps, copying and pasting from other actions, and avoiding independent thinking and analysis. These are the non-professional. Report
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