schickson Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 Will someone please confirm that when determining the value of the added and the deleted work to be used in deriving the aggregate value for review and/or CCPD consideration; you're supposed to include the associated or estimated overhead, G&A, and profit/fee (here after referred to as OGP) applicable to the deleted work separately from the added work? For example, if I am deleting $125K in direct material and labor, and adding $250K in direct material and labor, the aggregate amount is determined by calculating the OGP on the $125K (say another $100K) and then also calculating the OGP on the $250K (say another $200K) resulting in an aggregate change of $675K (AV 250+200-125-100=), which requires CCPD. The reason is probably obvious, but if you simply combine the add and deleted direct costs, and then add the associated OGP to the overall net, the aggregate value can be different than if you calculate it the first way (given an overall net increase). Examples: OGP BASED ON OVERALL NET: Added: $250K Deleted:$125K NET: $125K OGP: $100K TOTAL: $225K Net Change: $225K Aggregate value: $600K (250+225-125) CCPD NOT required OGP BASED ON EACH COMPONENT Added: $450K (250 + 200) Deleted:$225K (125 + 100) NET: $225K OGP: (included above) TOTAL: $225K Net Change: $225K Aggregate value: $675K (450+225) CCPD REQUIRED Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vern Edwards Posted May 19, 2010 Report Share Posted May 19, 2010 I hereby confirm that when determining the value of the added and the deleted work to be used in deriving the aggregate value for review and/or CCPD consideration, you are supposed to include the associated or estimated overhead, G&A, and profit/fee applicable to the deleted work separately from the added work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerfed Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 but if you simply combine the add and deleted direct costs, and then add the associated OGP to the overall net, the aggregate value can be different Of course it will be diiferent and it will be wrong as well. The first way you described it in the narrative is the proper way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel hoffman Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Will someone please confirm that when determining the value of the added and the deleted work to be used in deriving the aggregate value for review and/or CCPD consideration; you're supposed to include the associated or estimated overhead, G&A, and profit/fee (here after referred to as OGP) applicable to the deleted work separately from the added work? For example, if I am deleting $125K in direct material and labor, and adding $250K in direct material and labor, the aggregate amount is determined by calculating the OGP on the $125K (say another $100K) and then also calculating the OGP on the $250K (say another $200K) resulting in an aggregate change of $675K (AV 250+200-125-100=), which requires CCPD. The reason is probably obvious, but if you simply combine the add and deleted direct costs, and then add the associated OGP to the overall net, the aggregate value can be different than if you calculate it the first way (given an overall net increase). Examples: OGP BASED ON OVERALL NET: Added: $250K Deleted:$125K NET: $125K OGP: $100K TOTAL: $225K Net Change: $225K Aggregate value: $600K (250+225-125) CCPD NOT required OGP BASED ON EACH COMPONENT Added: $450K (250 + 200) Deleted:$225K (125 + 100) NET: $225K OGP: (included above) TOTAL: $225K Net Change: $225K Aggregate value: $675K (450+225) CCPD REQUIRED Thanks. From the Merriam-Webste'sr On-line Dictionary: Main Entry: 1val?ue Pronunciation: \ˈval-(ˌ)y?\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, worth, high quality, from Anglo-French, from Vulgar Latin *valuta, from feminine of *valutus, past participle of Latin valēre to be of worth, be strong — more at wield Date: 14th century 1 : a fair return or equivalent in goods, services, or money for something exchanged 2 : the monetary worth of something : market price The worth or price of an item doesn't just include the direct cost. It includes all costs and markup - the price one would charge or pay - assuming, of course that the seller isnt discounting the item. For purposes of cost based modification pricing, it would likely include all costs and markup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schickson Posted May 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 Thanks for the confirmation. It will help in convincing my customer and my boss that I know what I'm doing :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vern Edwards Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 I didn't confirm that you know what you're doing. Heck, I can't confirm that I know what I'm doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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