Eagle93 Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Hi All, One thing I've been wondering about is how other agencies handle FAC-C certification. It is an explicit condition of employment to be level 2 certified within 2 years of hire--that's in the USA jobs announcements and in our PD. My understanding of how that works is people meet the academic requirements, complete their FAC-C training, and get certified immediately to meet that condition of employment. So here, people complete all of their required training, submit their Level 2 paperwork, and then get told by our agency that they don't have the "breadth of experience" to be worthy of Level 2 certification. My shop is notorious for keeping people in limited roles on a particular product line, not letting them change teams, and then denying these people Level 2 certification for YEARS, based on the rationale that their experience is not broad enough. For a while, access to training was severely limited to the point where it would take people 3 or 4 years to get Level 2 classes done. They tried doing that to me. I completed training, submitted my paperwork, was denied, and I was like "hold up, this is a condition of employment and I completed the requisite training. How can you not certify me?!". I had to argue and fight hard to get Level 2 certified. They're not accustomed to people doing that. They gave in and certified me. How does that work at your agencies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constricting Officer Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 On 3/12/2020 at 1:32 PM, Eagle93 said: How does that work at your agencies? My agency, once all requirements are met certifies (FAC-C) the employees. That being said, we board COs and if they fail their cert level, it becomes a problem. No sure where you work, but it feels like a not-so-good environment for growth. Just saying . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle93 Posted March 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 2:16 PM, Constricting Officer said: My agency, once all requirements are met certifies (FAC-C) the employees. That being said, we board COs and if they fail their cert level, it becomes a problem. No sure where you work, but it feels like a not-so-good environment for growth. Just saying . . . It is encouraging to know that what I've been seeing is not the norm. The shop I'm currently on my way out of has historically and continually had a massive turnover--for a variety of reasons. I think that jerking people around on Level 2 certification (and denying them opportunity to broaden experience) has been a misguided attempt to reduce people's mobility to private sector and other agencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel hoffman Posted March 24, 2020 Report Share Posted March 24, 2020 14 hours ago, Eagle93 said: It is encouraging to know that what I've been seeing is not the norm. The shop I'm currently on my way out of has historically and continually had a massive turnover--for a variety of reasons. I think that jerking people around on Level 2 certification (and denying them opportunity to broaden experience) has been a misguided attempt to reduce people's mobility to private sector and other agencies. Eagle, based upon the breadth and extent of your situation and dissatisfaction, as described in various threads, I pray that you will be able to move to another, better agency for your own sake. Your agency “sounds” like a big dud. If you desire to stay in the federal government, it might be necessary to change geographical areas or region though. Good luck to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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