duke38 Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Greetings, I awarded a FFP contract for armored vehicles under a LPTA RFQ to a GSA schedule holder. A week after the award the vendor is asking for a Bi-lateral modification to add FAR clause 52.232-30 to the contract to allow them to receive progress payments. Is this an unusual request for a vehicle manufacturer and if I do allow them installment payments what and how would I be able to determine if a payment is warranted since we will not get these vehicles until they are complete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vern Edwards Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Armored vehicles? What kind of armored vehicles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke38 Posted October 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Personnel Carriers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vern Edwards Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 On GSA schedule. Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ji20874 Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 a few thoughts... You don't want to use the term "progress payments" -- installment payments are not progress payments -- both progress payments and installment payments are methods of financing, but they are different. You need to read FAR 32.202-1 thoroughly. You also need to read the clause thoroughly. Did the contractor offer consideration? Surely installment payments would be substantially more advantageous to the contractor than its normal method of financing. Even if the contractor did offer consideration, maybe you should negotiate more consideration. Are installment payments customary in the commercial armored vehicle business? I know they are for boats and yachts, but I don't know about armored vehicles. Should you cancel your order and re-solicit, and include the installment payments clause in the new solicitation? You will probably get better prices from all schedule contractor offerors. Anyway, if I were you, my first answer to the contractor would be no. The contractor must provide the armored vehicles on time with payment upon delivery, as proposed in its quotation and specified in the task order. You shouldn't do the modification unless the contractor really makes it worth the Government's while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prodigalko Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 I would suggest contacting the GSA contracting officer to get their thoughts on this. They should have a good idea if 32.206(g) is standard commercial practice ("installment payments for the item are either customary or are authorized in accordance with agency procedures"). They may also have negotiated the schedule rates based on whether they thought that this type of financing is customary (and may have included the clause in the schedule terms and conditions), or may have decided that it was not customary. If you have not previously contacted a GSA contracting officer just put the schedule number into the GSA elibrary website and it will display as the government poc phone and email. You can also check the T&C's on the same page and expiration date. If you have trouble getting them find a contract in the same schedule with a different poc and they should be able to help. If all else fails you can call their help desk and they will get you someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
here_2_help Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 So apparently you can order armored personnel carriers off a GSA schedule as if they were commercial items? Who knew? H2H P.S. -- I hope the personnel being carried don't ever learn they were awarded to the lowest bidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retreadfed Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Duke, just to be clear, you said you were acquiring the vehicles from a GSA schedule holder, but you did not say you were acquiring them off a schedule. Can you clarify this point and if you are acquiring them off a schedule, what schedule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo1102 Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 I am confused by this - since when can the military award armored personnel carriers (APCs) from a GSA schedule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke38 Posted October 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Duke, just to be clear, you said you were acquiring the vehicles from a GSA schedule holder, but you did not say you were acquiring them off a schedule. Can you clarify this point and if you are acquiring them off a schedule, what schedule? Yes this is off their GSA schedule. Schedule 84 426 5B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke38 Posted October 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 I am confused by this - since when can the military award armored personnel carriers (APCs) from a GSA schedule? Where did you get military from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leo1102 Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 You are correct - My mistake. I should not have assumed military at all. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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