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  1. Vern, I would appreciate it if you would refrain from speculation regarding my motivation for declining to engage further in this discussion. Some might say that your last comment about my motives is in violation of Rule #1 of this Forum. Knowing you, I know it wasn't an intentional affront.
  2. As I said on my first post on this thread, I'm not making an argument and I'm not trying to convince (or even persuade) anybody. I'm sorry if that disappoints you (or anybody else). You and I have been down this road before and we are, I suspect, largely talking past each other. For example, I use the phrase "competitive advantage in the marketplace" and your response is that "if there is competition there is no requirement for cost or pricing data." Non sequitur. It's obvious that I'm not communicating well and I take responsibility for that.
  3. Actually, no. I do not have to explain it. As a hint, you might consider looking at the quote to which I was responding. I requoted it to show the context of my statement. If the context is not clear then there's nothing else I can do.
  4. It should be apparent that the ability to conduct effective, timely, TINA sweeps is a competitive advantage. That has always been the case, but the recent Assad memo should make it blindingly clear. Litigation avoidance as a competitive advantage in the marketplace. Think about it.
  5. Given that I spent more than a decade in the E&C industry, and then several years consulting to that industry, I'm pretty sure you are somewhat familiar with more than one of the companies I once worked for.
  6. 15.407-1 Defective certified cost or pricing data. ***** (b)(1) If, after award, certified cost or pricing data are found to be inaccurate, incomplete, or noncurrent as of the date of final agreement on price or an earlier date agreed upon by the parties given on the contractor's or subcontractor's Certificate of Current Cost or Pricing Data, the Government is entitled to a price adjustment, including profit or fee, of any significant amount by which the price was increased because of the defective data. The first date is the date of price agreement; the second date is the effective date on the CCCPD. The dates do not have to be the same. For example, if the date of price agreement was 1 June but the contractor's final sweep was 28 May, then the parties could agree that the certification date is 28 May ... and any new cost or pricing data that arises between 28 May and 1 June is irrelevant to a determination that the contractor defectively priced. I don't know why this is hard. It doesn't have to be.
  7. Gosh fellows. I have been involved in several negotiations in my time, and we always knew when we were close to agreement. Further, we were frequently sweeping with subKs and ourselves during negotiations, seeking to see if we should update our pricing. It was always good news when we could deliver a cost savings during negotiations, through updated pricing. The customers always liked that. But please don't think I'm trying to persuade you of anything. You do you. By all means, proceed with your post-agreement sweeps, if that's what you feel you have to do. Take as long as you need. Finally, your comments don't address the difference between the effective date of the CCCPD and the date of price agreement. Two dates; not one.
  8. Vern and I have debated this issue (privately) in the past. I maintain that post-price agreement sweeps are essentially worthless because they don't mitigate defective pricing risk, which ends on the date of price agreement. Accordingly, I assert that a contractor must perform its final sweep just before the final price agreement is reached, and that date becomes the effective date of the Certificate of Current Cost or Pricing Data. As to "incentive" -- would a Level 3 CAR on the Estimating System provide adequate incentive? I would think that it would.
  9. here_2_help

    Using LinkedIn

    I'm fairly active on LinkedIn under a different user name, and every week somebody wants to connect with me. I don't accept every invitation; there needs to be a reason for us to connect. There needs to be a mutuality of interests and skills and network connections. Recently several erstwhile DoD employees have sent me invitations to connect, and I've rejected them. I know there are many Federal employees who visit this site, and perhaps some might be looking to transition to the private sector. Obviously, LinkedIn is a huge recruiting resource and, if you are looking to make a move, you will want to use it. I thought I would share some thoughts about how to use it effectively -- and how not to use it. One recent invitation was from a veteran and long-time "contacting officer" for the Air Force. Literally, each job he listed under "experience" was some variety of "contacting officer". He had been a USAF "contacting officer" for many years and had progressed through different postings, each one strangely without any details as to what the job entailed. Either "contacting officer" is an official position (perhaps analogous to a WalMart greeter?) or else the individual didn't know what he was talking about. I suspected the latter. Upon further investigation (no picture, contact details vague, activity primarily consisted of negative comments about certain ethnic groups) I concluded he was nobody I wanted to connect with. I rejected the invitation and reported the profile to LinkedIn as a possible fake. Another recent invitation came from somebody in San Antonio who does "contracting for the United States Air Force." There were zero further details. He might work at Brooks AFB but no posting location was provided. He might be a Contracting Officer but it doesn't say that. He might be a Contracting Specialist but it doesn't say that. There is literally no work experience on his profile. Just "contracting". No education noted, not a DAWIA Level or even any DAU courses taken. Yeah, no. The guy could be legit but it didn't seem that way to me. Pass. If you are going to use LinkedIn -- and you absolutely should if you are looking to enter the private sector -- you need to approach your profile like it is a resume. Make sure it's complete and that it represents your professional public face. I know there are legitimate concerns about data security but you can be vague about certain details if you need to be. The point is to create a profile that showcases your experience, education, and potential value-add to a recruiter. Believe me, recruiters are looking. Hope this helps. Edited to add: I just accepted an invitation from a Senior Contracting Specialist who listed "FAC C Level III Certification" and "FAC PPM Level III Certification". Retired from USAF after 21 years. Postings are listed.
  10. Prime contractors' costs to develop and administer small business reporting programs is not insignificant. And the costs associated with mistakes can be expensive as well. http://www.asbca.mil/Decisions/2017/59876 BAE Systems Southwest Shipyards Mayport LLC 7.13.17.pdf
  11. Jenkins83, You keep using the term "ODC" but I'm not sure you are using it correctly. If your question is whether the program office should have acquired hotspot services via an already existing BPA versus asking the contractor to provide, then the answer does NOT turn on what you or the contractor call the hotspot services. Totally separate issue. However, if you have concluded that it is appropriate to ask the contractor to provide hotspot services, then you may reasonably ask how the contractor should account for the cost of the services and bill them to the government. If that is the question before you, then what you are asking encompasses questions about the contractor's disclosed or established cost accounting practices. For example, you could reasonably ask how the contractor has accounted for such services in the past, when charged directly to a government contract. Does the contractor consistently treat hotspot services, when charged direct, as a "subcontract" or as a material item or as an "ODC"? Those are reasonable questions that the contractor should be able to easily answer. So which is it?
  12. If it doesn't fit "ODC" then where would you expect it to go?
  13. The prime contractor is responsible for execution risk on the contract. If the subcontractor doesn't perform the warranty work, who does the government hold accountable? Not the subcontractor ... When costs are incurred, they are recorded into allowable and unallowable categories. The contractor uses profit on allowable work to pay for its unallowable costs. When you deny the contractor profit on its costs then you are not allowing the contractor to cover its unallowable costs. I'm not in favor of such a situation.
  14. here_2_help

    COR Conflict of Interest

    A more on-point question is whether the employee left in good circumstances and whether they might now harbor a grudge or animus against their former employer.
  15. ARF, If the subcontractor is not a related/affiliated entity to the prime contractor, then there is no "profit on profit" in the situation you describe. The price charged by the subcontractor becomes the prime's costs, on which it is allowed to make a profit (unless the contract dictates otherwise).
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