To Culham, I did look at the T&M forum, FAR, DFARS, DPC and others. I have not been able to find in any forum where it states when the Government is to set the ceiling. Is it prior to solicitation, or prior to award? Does it matter? The Government's ability to track the labor and materials, as it relates to this requirement, is not of concern. My concern is simply that the Government has initially set the estimate quite high--which will skew proposed pricing high. While the req owners are still working the numbers, I thought I would ask the question: Does the T&M ceiling HAVE TO BE articulated in the Solicitation?