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Vern Edwards

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  1. Well, formerfed, I don't know. And I'm beyond arguing about such stuff at my age. So maybe a maximum of none is okay.
  2. Have you called the Defense Security Service? See https://www.afdw.af.mil/Portals/31/documents/Small-Business/SB_Guide_Facility_Clearance_Process_FINAL_LINKS.PDF?ver=2018-08-24-145011-637 Do yourself a favor and write a list of short and carefully worded questions before you call. Think about what information you want and be clear and direct in asking for it.
  3. I disagree. FAR implements statute. See 41 USC §§ 4101(1)(A) and (2)(A); 4103(b)(2) and (e); and 4106(f)(1)(A). I don't know how GSA managed a deviation, especially in light of 41 USC 4103(b)(2) and (e). Same requirements in 10 USC. Have I missed something?
  4. GSA's OASIS GWAC, which is a MAC, has a minimum, but does not have a maximum. I don't know how that was done. I saw no mention in the contract of a FAR deviation.
  5. @formerfedI think what you will see now if you look at RFPs for MATOCs and MADOCs is one of the following: a min is set for each contractor and the program max applies to the pool of contractors; or a min is set for each contractor and a share of the program max is allocated to each contractor as its max. Under 1 and 2, the sum value of all orders cannot exceed the program max. I have not seen an RFP in which the entire program max was set as the max for each contractor, but I have not seen all the RFPs. I would not think that appropriate if a MATOC/MADOC is one contract with multiple parties, but if it's multiple separate contracts... ?
  6. All relatively recent and relatively brief. Page counts include indexes. Barzun, Jacques, Simple & Direct: A Rhetoric for Writers, 4th ed, (2001), paperback, 268 pages. Dreyer, Benjamin, Dreyer's English: An Utterly Correct Guide to Clarity and Style (2019), hardcover and Kindle, 291 pages. Evans, Harold, Do I Make Myself Clear? Why Writing Well Matters (2017), paperback and Kindle, 407 pages. Fish, How to Write a Sentence and How to Read One (2011), paperback and Kindle, 164 pages. Casagrande, The Best Punctuation Book, Period (2014), paperback, 249 pages.
  7. @ Marshal Zhukov: Try searching at Google Scholar. Lead time has long been a matter of concern. There is a lot of material available online about "procurement lead time" and "administrative lead time" and "procurement administrative lead time," both in government and in the private sector. Some of it is readily available online, some of it is available through public or university libraries, and some of it is available only through subscription services or with online payment. I'm not sure what you're looking for or what you buy, so I'm not sure if any of the stuff would be helpful to you. See, for instance, MacKinnon, "A Forecasting Model for Procurement Administrative Lead Time," available through the Defense Technical Information Center (DTIC), https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a258016.pdf
  8. Might you say that input is workload (requisitions, changes, etc.), process is the workforce and its procedures, and output is contract awards, mods, closeouts, etc.? Is it a norm that you want to compare yourselves to, or is it a mandate, goal, or ideal?
  9. The complete paragraph is: The contractor is obligated from the date of award to deliver what is ordered within the ordering period, and the government is obligated to buy the stipulated minimum. There must be a contract before the government can issue any order and have a right expect the contractor to perform. The purpose of the first sentence in FAR 52.216-22(b), quoted above, is to stipulate that the Government will pay only for what the Government orders in accordance with the Ordering clause. It is a limitation on the Government's liability. Neil, I respect you for what you know, and I don't want you to withdraw. But you clearly don't know much about indefinite-delivery contracts. When it comes to IDIQ, read a book to get a clue. Try Formation of Government Contracts, 4th ed, by Cibinic, Nash, and Yukins, pp. 1,386 - 1,406. Learn something before you quibble with people who have been around for a while. (Not that we can't be wrong.) Start your own post, a place where learners can collaborate with others in study. Everybody has to start learning at some point. No shame in that.
  10. I speculated about that in an earlier post in this thread. I further speculate that a promise (1) to include an offeror in an exclusive pool of contractors and (2) to give them a fair opportunity to compete for sales against only others in the pool could serve as the consideration necessary to bind the parties. If that is right, then there would be no need for the government to promise a minimum purchase from each (or any) contractor in order bind the parties. That being the case, there would be no need to record an obligation of funds on the date of award.
  11. Back in the day, when I awarded IDIQ contracts for supplies, we recorded the obligation for the minimum on the contract document, then assigned those funds to an order or orders via "administrative notice" ("administrative change" today) as we issued them until the minimum was purchased. We did that because we did not always have an immediate requirement on the date of contract award or for some time afterward. Some agencies may still do that. But simultaneous award of the contract and issuance of an order for the minimum seems to be a common practice today.
  12. @General.ZhukovWhat are you up to? Writing a paper, thesis, dissertation, article, or book? Do you have some hypothesis about workforce input and output?
  13. In order for there to be an order, there must first be a contract. Think about it. That contract is commonly referred to as the "base contract," although it is a silly term. And an order placed against an IDIQ contract does not have to be accepted. The contract requires the contractor to perform. See FAR 52.216-22(b), which is a contract clause in an IDIQ contract. This thread isn't educational. When I started it I assumed that participants would be people with enough background to understand and think about the issues I am raising.
  14. @Neil Roberts Your phrase: does not make sense. MATOC stands for multiple-award task-order contract. A task-order contract is an IDIQ contract for services. See FAR 16.501-1. Thus, a MATOC is a species of multiple-award contract, an IDIQ multiple-award contract for services. So what are you talking about?
  15. I am asking whether a "multiple-award contract" (MAC) is one contract with multiple parties or multiple independent contracts, and I am wondering what the implications are in either case.
  16. Oh, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that no COs have thought about the distinction that I'm making. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that no policymakers have thought about it.
  17. What's interesting about it? Do you think it means something?
  18. When you have completed your search for sources, let us know what you found. I search for data sources all the time. It takes many hours of my time. But I do my own looking.
  19. This has been asked many times. The answer is that policy and practice vary from agency to agency.
  20. There is no FAR requirement to allocate hours to specific labor categories, but it might be a good idea. Think about it.
  21. @C Culham What do you think? If we could simply decide whether to make a MAC (1) a single agreement with multiple parties or (2) multiple separate agreements, which approach would be in the best interests of all involved? I guess that in order to answer that question we would have to think through the implications associated with each approach.
  22. @C Culham I'm confused by two of the entries at the beginning of your last post. A multiple-award contract is not a solicitation. According to FAR 2.101 it's a contract. Award is the act of accepting an offer. In the FAR 2.101 definition of multiple-award contract. As for FAR 52.215-1, the phrase "make multiple awards" in paragraph (f)(6) does not necessarily mean the same as "award a multiple-award contract." A CO can make multiple awards (award multiple contracts) without awarding a multiple-award contract as defined in FAR 2.101.
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