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  1. I was just browsing through today and noticed this reply... No, no withholding of anything, nor any prices better than GSA/BOA, just trying to understand the intricacies of BOA customers and those we'd listed on the CSP chart, and the relationship to the PRC.
  2. Thread from the dead here, but this is relevant to my interests. In our master agreement, the delivery is noted in accordance with the proposal as incorporated, which says that deliver is 90 days ARO. Often times we get Task Orders with delivery dates specified earlier. Everything else would be in accordance with the contract except that - we don't arbitrarily change the delivery date to 90 days, we send a note back to the CO, but, in that instance, what would the "status" of that order be? Issued? Or because the delivery date is other than contract, would that necessarily become a "bilateral" agreement?
  3. jlbdca, are the customers listed on the CSP by definition basis of award customers? I ask because of the discounts listed in the columns of our CSP being different in the instance of re-sellers and GSA customers - this confuses me. I thought GSA got "best price". Sorry if I'm flat missing it.
  4. Good morning all. After much lurking about this site the last couple years, I finally have questions the answers to which I haven't found on here. First up: We had a GSA schedule, on which is a software product, which was issued in 1997, with a contract update in 2005; in that update, "PRICE REDUCTIONS (GSAR 552.238-75) (SEP 1999) (ALTERNATE I – MAY 2004)" which states: “The class of customer which is the basis of award for purposes of the Price Reductionclause is State and Local Government. This clause applies to only those Business Unitsor wholly owned subsidiaries within (the company) that utilize the schedule.” “A price reduction shall apply to the resultant GSA schedule contract should anyBusiness Unit or wholly owned subsidiary within (the company), who utilizes the Schedule,offer a lower price than is on the schedule to any State or Local Government. Thisreduction shall apply regardless of the amount of sales recognized under such hourlyrate contract with the State or Local Government.” “Under paragraph (d)(1), “commercial customers” are defined as State or LocalGovernment only. A price reduction does not apply if sales to State or LocalGovernments are under firm fixed price, definite quantity contracts with specifieddelivery in excess of the maximum order threshold as specified in the contract.Under that language, if we sell the product to a "non-basis of award" customer (in this case a federal prime), at a price just higher than the GSA price, would we trigger a the price reduction clause? My understanding is that the "discount relationship" applies to the BOAwd customers, not just any customer set. I think the rationale for selling at a just higher price than GSA was that we avoid violating the "do (you) sell at a level at or below the GSA price?" language, which seems to be an "absolute" no matter how the "customer set" is defined (i.e. BOAwd customers or not). It doesn't feel entirely clear. Next question(s): The follow on GSA contract seems somewhat clearer, and on which we sell lots of software products, including the product referenced above; question as follows: On the Commercial Sales Practices (CSP) chart, are the customers or customer sets listed in column 1 considered the BOAwd set? If so, why would our CSP, on a different software product, list "re-sellers" with a deeper discount than is listed for "GSA discount" customers? Per the CSP, such re-sellers are offered a 27% discount, yet our proposed GSA discount is 17%. This thread seems to indicate that "any customer", regardless of size, would suddenly set a new discount standard: http://www.wifcon.com/discussion/index.php?/topic/1174-discouting-gsa-rates/?hl=%2Bbasis+%2Baward+%2Bcustomer. The circumstances feel remarkably similar to the question I'm asking here. Further, at this site below, the following is in the slides: Basis of award (BOA) - The customer or customer class that most resembles the purchasing habits of the federal government upon which GSA pricing was negotiated https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwihu9PJlPDJAhUO52MKHUsDDmMQFggjMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgtpac.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2011%2F10%2FContract-Administration-and-Compliance.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFNk-ycVj0N8iBu9xd86XuMhbxwVQ All of which indicates to me that the BOAwd customer may indeed get "different" pricing from "other customer sets" (such as the difference in re-seller amount on our current schedule), I'm just struggling with how and when that might apply. How many ways am I wrong?